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		By: Beate Hunton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beate Hunton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2021 21:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi...I am German ...grew up in Berlin...loved Negerküsse ! Name has been changed, product is the same. Also loved Amerikaner from the Bakery ( 50s through 70s , a cute thank you to all the GIs in town !):large , soft dough cookie, after baking turned over and iced on the flat side: half white sugar icing , half chocolate ! I have not seen these on my recent visits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;I am German &#8230;grew up in Berlin&#8230;loved Negerküsse ! Name has been changed, product is the same. Also loved Amerikaner from the Bakery ( 50s through 70s , a cute thank you to all the GIs in town !):large , soft dough cookie, after baking turned over and iced on the flat side: half white sugar icing , half chocolate ! I have not seen these on my recent visits.</p>
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		By: Rachel Heller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel Heller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rachelsruminations.com/jew-cookies-and-negro-kisses/#comment-37630&quot;&gt;Hans&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree the cookies are good, though a little dry for my tastes. But I was writing about how I feel that the name of my ethnic group is used to name a food item by people who are mostly NOT in that ethnic group. Just as with negerzoenen, it FEELS hurtful. Just like the whole Zwarte Piet debate, just because the intention might be pure (which I agree in the article, the intention is not anti-Semitic), that doesn&#039;t change the effect it has on people. Not intending to be racist or anti-Semitic doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not racist or anti-Semitic. I don&#039;t see why using names like Jodenkoek and Negerzoenen are necessary to have open discussions about anti-Semitism or racism. The history is there either way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rachelsruminations.com/jew-cookies-and-negro-kisses/#comment-37630">Hans</a>.</p>
<p>I agree the cookies are good, though a little dry for my tastes. But I was writing about how I feel that the name of my ethnic group is used to name a food item by people who are mostly NOT in that ethnic group. Just as with negerzoenen, it FEELS hurtful. Just like the whole Zwarte Piet debate, just because the intention might be pure (which I agree in the article, the intention is not anti-Semitic), that doesn&#8217;t change the effect it has on people. Not intending to be racist or anti-Semitic doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not racist or anti-Semitic. I don&#8217;t see why using names like Jodenkoek and Negerzoenen are necessary to have open discussions about anti-Semitism or racism. The history is there either way.</p>
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		By: Hans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m so not in agreement with your last statement “ With such names, we become the “them” in “Us versus Them.” And your statement about Jews being excluded from society by the jodenkoek product name.

It is exactly the other way around! By having these names refer to these products you contain Jews as part of the Dutch history, in the form of this delightful cookie (which is also a very positive one). Taking out the name automatically removes this piece of history. It removes the chance of our kids to ask ‘why is that called a Jew cookie?’ and thus the chance to have an open discussion about it. Same goes for negerzoenen. The exclusion that you fear is hereby initiated and thus has the opposite effect.
Why are we making this all so difficult in our society? It’s a damn good cookie. I enjoy it regularly and it have absolutely no negative associations to Jews because of it.
On the contrary!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m so not in agreement with your last statement “ With such names, we become the “them” in “Us versus Them.” And your statement about Jews being excluded from society by the jodenkoek product name.</p>
<p>It is exactly the other way around! By having these names refer to these products you contain Jews as part of the Dutch history, in the form of this delightful cookie (which is also a very positive one). Taking out the name automatically removes this piece of history. It removes the chance of our kids to ask ‘why is that called a Jew cookie?’ and thus the chance to have an open discussion about it. Same goes for negerzoenen. The exclusion that you fear is hereby initiated and thus has the opposite effect.<br />
Why are we making this all so difficult in our society? It’s a damn good cookie. I enjoy it regularly and it have absolutely no negative associations to Jews because of it.<br />
On the contrary!</p>
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		By: Rachel Heller		</title>
		<link>https://rachelsruminations.com/jew-cookies-and-negro-kisses/#comment-4143</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel Heller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rachelsruminations.com/jew-cookies-and-negro-kisses/#comment-4135&quot;&gt;Mark Twain&lt;/a&gt;.

So they&#039;re not uniquely Dutch things!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rachelsruminations.com/jew-cookies-and-negro-kisses/#comment-4135">Mark Twain</a>.</p>
<p>So they&#8217;re not uniquely Dutch things!</p>
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		By: Mark Twain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Twain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2015 16:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Sweden, the black pastry looks like nipples, and the name was only phased out during the early 2000&#039;s

Judekakker are popular in Norway, but I haven&#039;t seen them in Sweden.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Sweden, the black pastry looks like nipples, and the name was only phased out during the early 2000&#8217;s</p>
<p>Judekakker are popular in Norway, but I haven&#8217;t seen them in Sweden.</p>
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		By: Elizabeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ha, I also think it&#039;s strange when i see things labeled as &#039;american&#039; style and it&#039;s something we didn&#039;t do/have in the states. Filet American is a good example and at a pancake house there was an &#039;american&#039; style of pancake that assorted toppings that didn&#039;t seem characteristically american to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, I also think it&#8217;s strange when i see things labeled as &#8216;american&#8217; style and it&#8217;s something we didn&#8217;t do/have in the states. Filet American is a good example and at a pancake house there was an &#8216;american&#8217; style of pancake that assorted toppings that didn&#8217;t seem characteristically american to me.</p>
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		By: Rachel Heller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel Heller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 22:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rachelsruminations.com/jew-cookies-and-negro-kisses/#comment-338&quot;&gt;jeanine&lt;/a&gt;.

Haha! No idea! Doesn&#039;t it come from England? And what about filet americain? (that&#039;s pureed raw beef). I don&#039;t think any American eats that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rachelsruminations.com/jew-cookies-and-negro-kisses/#comment-338">jeanine</a>.</p>
<p>Haha! No idea! Doesn&#8217;t it come from England? And what about filet americain? (that&#8217;s pureed raw beef). I don&#8217;t think any American eats that!</p>
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		By: jeanine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeanine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, then justify Engelse drop, because I can&#039;t !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, then justify Engelse drop, because I can&#8217;t !</p>
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		By: Rachel Heller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel Heller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You mean in negerzoenen? I don&#039;t think so, or at least only to the extent of meaning black skin color. The word neger refers to people. Zwart is the word for black. Thanks for commenting!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean in negerzoenen? I don&#8217;t think so, or at least only to the extent of meaning black skin color. The word neger refers to people. Zwart is the word for black. Thanks for commenting!</p>
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		By: Carolina HeartStrings		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carolina HeartStrings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2013 13:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Could the term simply mean black in color?  I can understand some awkwardness in not wanting to offend.  It is for certain very interesting!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could the term simply mean black in color?  I can understand some awkwardness in not wanting to offend.  It is for certain very interesting!</p>
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